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Nest ferch Gruffudd (1130)

Born in Dynevor Castle, Llandilo, Carmarthenshire, Walesmap
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Wife of — married 1134 in Senghennydd, Glamorgan, Walesmap
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Died [date unknown] [location unknown]
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Biography

Parents and Siblings

Children of Gruffydd AP RHYS and Gwenlian VERCH GRUFFYDD OF GWYNEDD are:

  1. Nest verch Gruffydd, born Bet. 1100 - 1130; married Ifor Bach ap Meurig Fychan.
  2. Anarawd ap Gruffydd, born Abt. 1110; died 1143 in Murdered. (Notes: Ruled Deheubarth 1136-1143.)
  3. Cadell ap Gruffydd, born Abt. 1115; died Abt. 1175. (Notes: Ruled Deheubarth 1143-1151, when he was seriously injured in battle and had to step down for his brother Maredudd ap Gruffydd.)
  4. Maredudd ap Gruffydd, born Abt. 1118; died 1155. (Notes: Rebuilt the old kingdom of Deheubarth which he rulled from 1151-1155.)
  5. Maelgwn ap Gruffydd, born 1119 in Carmarthenshire, Wales; died 1136 in ?.
  6. Rhys Ap Gruffydd Prince of Deheubarth, born 1120 in Dynevor Castle, Llandilo, Carmarthenshire, Wales; died May 04, 1196; married Gwenlian verch Madoc.
  7. Gwenllian Verch Gruffudd, born 1136 in Dynevor Castle, Carmarthenshire, Wales; married Trahaearn ap Gwgon; born 1131 in Llan-gors, Breconshire, Wales.[1]

Name

Nest Verch /Gruffydd/
Nest verch /Gruffudd/

Sources

  1. Gwynedd Meeting

Acknowledgements

  • Thank you to everyone who has worked on this profile. WikiTree says she is my "22th great grandmother", so when I found her profile was an orphan, I adopted it. ~ Noland-165, 11 May 2020




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Someone I had a conversation with claimed Nest never existed, claiming Gwenllian only had 3 children (all sons). Load of rubbish - Gwenllian had 7 or 8 children, and was also stepmother to Gruffydd ap Rhys' two sons from his previous marriage
posted by Steven Williams
Nest was the illegitimate daughter of Gruffydd Ap Rhys by an unknown mistress.

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/WALES.htm#Gruffydddied1137

posted on Gruffydd-4 (merged) by Nancy Yeager
Nest was one of the daughters of Gruffydd and Gwenllian. They had 7 or 8 children, Gruffydd had two sons from a previous marriage
posted by Steven Williams
If these dates are correct, Nest was only 4 years old when she married (her husband was 20) and only 8 years old when her daughter, Gwenllian was born. Kind of stretches the imagination a little I think.
posted on Gruffydd-4 (merged) by Harry Kelly
You are right it sounds ridiculous. But nobody can be sure what years Nest and her siblings were born. And I thought Nest only had one child, being Gruffudd ab Ifor Bach
posted by Steven Williams
1134 could have been a contract date. Children's profiles have birth in 1150. A 15-year gap between husband and wife in a first marriage is not unusual. Welsh women of the time were expected to have married and started a family by 15; Welsh men of the class of her husband would not marry until they inherited or otherwise acquired land - generally 25-35. See http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id22.html
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett

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